Interview by Michael Hesseman
Translated from German by Michael Epstein
What kind of things do we expect to hear from a flamboyant rock-n-roll personality? We expect them to say the first thing that comes to their mind that will shock us. Nina Hagen, German rock-superstar, is no exception, except that when she talks, there is no denying her deep sincerity – the passionate manner in which she speaks of her inward journeys and personal spiritual revelations. Nina Hagen has found God, or God has found her (it's impossible to tell). Her seemingly outrageous approach to her spirituality is really just the language of her idiom, Rock-n-roll.
Hagen's music is compelling because of it's youthful intensity, but it is her lyrics and her remarkable voice that have the power to convert.
True, many of her fans like her for other reasons, her overt sexuality for one. But it is her vision a new age where humanity is reunited with God on this earth, that is the heart of her music. Change is the central theme of her songs, her life. Hagen's influence on her admirers is undeniable, and many young fans have turned to esoteric studies because of her music. I mean, really, what other Rock-n-Roll star is a follower of Babaji?
Her first book, a sensual and transcendental autobiography, I am a Berliner, describes her intense search for God. But it is also a passionate affirmation for life on this planet and for a new spiritual age.
Nina Hagen is a spiritual revolutionary, a worker of light. Moreover, she is a person who lives her inner ecstasy.
Nina Hagen: My First UFO in Malibu
Night. Awoke, went to the window, it was just hanging in the air. I can't describe the energy of this "light machine", for there is nothing comparable on is earth. The lights from this flying floating machine – round underneath- were focused on me with an indescribable strength. This wonderful object shined with an intensity that is difficult to translate into words. All the colors of the rainbow were shining on me, one after another. The dimensions of the strength of the colors I could only describe as fluorescent. I couldn't even move, and all my thoughts were turned off. What happened next, I would say it was my second initiation. It was like a movie; information was given to me that, together with my first initiation, united into a great whole.
I know now that there are intelligent good natured people from other worlds and other dimensions, who dive into our physical reality. All these positive powers are the possessors of the "One Light" that keeps the entire cosmic creation alive. Their spaceships reduce their speed and enter the physical spheres. They and their occupants come partly from other planets, galaxies and solar systems. They vary in forms and appearance, as they all go through different stages of evolution and come to us from different worlds. The planet EARTH is stuck in it's evolutionary development, and "evil" forces have turned it into a dark, threatened planet. Self-destructive, material-minded negative forces are blocking our progress through international isolationist ways of thinking, working and living.
Last night I had a really great dream: Suddenly I saw beautiful UFOs whirring about in the heavens. They looked so great, like a swimming pool penthouse with windows on the roof. Naturally, I looked to see if they beamed the right colors, those that distinguish genuine good, namely pink, green, lilac and blue.
And suddenly sitting there was this guy named Markus Herold. It's been more than a year, and he still hasn't returned my videotapes from May 1987 at Tempodrom (a Berlin discotheque) – and from my spiritual wedding on Ibiza. I said to this guy (in my dream): "Hey, look! There are UFOs!" And he replied: "No, I don't want to be picked up!"
"Don't you need to be picked up?"
"No, I don't want to see anything; I don't trust myself."
And then I didn't worry about him any more because these UFOs did such wonderful things – leaving behind patterns and signs in the air, always new ships appearing, flying here and there. Finally, there remained in the sky a very artistic colorful "Eight". The colors were pink, green, lilac and blue: a confirmation. Those are the colors of the UFOs participating in the great project of evacuating the world, the greatest rescue operation of all times. On this Day, the electricity will be so great that the vibration of all human beings will be turned into it. Then, when the vibrations of the people are too deep, they will – with a great electric shock – lose their physical bodies. Also, their fear will literally kill them. All those who show a total trust in God will survive this painful moment. A body of light will arise.
Nina, how did you arrive on the spiritual path? What were the decisive events and experiences?
Nina Hagen: I was visiting Rhea Powers and she brought me back to my place of origin, before I ever arrived on the earth. Thus started my spiritual journey – from the beginning. Actually, we are all spiritual beings, (clears her throat) "heavenly spheres", as we often, in our nice earthly manner, express it – and then we come down here to earth. The descent was rather painful. I remember everything from this session. I was in the blue realm – with God everything was blue. On saying goodbye, I was bawling terribly, I didn't want to leave, I knew I must, I knew I must, I knew I must…
It hurt so much. It's so terrible to take on physical reality. And God then said, "Keep in contact, keep in contact, pray, pray, keep in contact, don't forget me." Then, when we come here to earth, we forget where we came from. But it doesn't have to be like that; we can remain in contact. And then the Heavenly Queen came with a giant bouquet of pink roses – my farewell bouquet – and said I should always bathe with pink roses – that I should visualize that and tell everyone to bathe with pink roses, because pink roses are the roses of love, and whosoever bathes in them can change the world, can start a creative revolution and inspire people to find Ecstasy.
Chris Griscom has written "Ecstasy is the New Frequency". You write in your book that you have reached this frequency. How can others find ecstasy?
NH: I would say they should seek God. Jesus said, "He who seeks shall find." I totally agree. He who seeks from the heart – the words and religious group one is involved with doesn't matter – will find God and experience Ecstasy. But what I say is not all so important, because my singing is much more revealing.
He who seeks God – God and his wife, Ecstasy – should study the Babaji books. Then we can talk further. I wish that people would want to know more about Babaji. He was on this earth from 1971 to 1984.
Like Mother Mary, he speaks of a "great revolution" of the days when we shall all be tested – when this Age has come to an end. All we can do is prepare ourselves for that day. Well, I want to return to God. I don't want to lose my soul – either through an atomic disintegration, or an inner evil, or whatever. That's why I want to tell as many people as possible that these days are coming soon. All those who have ever taken LSD will receive it as communion on this day. It will rain down from heaven – a heavenly drug. Jesus spoke of these days, that many people would rather be dead than go through this trial, because it will be so painful for so many that hopefully they will be purified thought the pain. Then will come the selection – as crazy as that may sound. I don't know what God does with people's souls, but probably they will have to incarnate as worms – as atomic worms. They will have to be worms living in their nuclear reactors. I know that nowadays most people hav
e no interest in the study of the beyond and laugh when they are told about it. They are only interested in the here and now, in materialism and money, earning and consuming. Street bums tell of what Franz Josef (Franz Josef Strauss – recently deceased governor of Bavaria) meant to us and all the things he did for us. But none of his old friends thinks about what he is now, where he is now, and what is happening to him right now.
Now your people from above are often flying around in the form of UFOs.
NH: Unfortunately not often enough, but it's still OK. Often in my dreams I have seen the evil (negative UFOs), and I know that in such cases we often close the window and are not interested any further. The good beings have already come to me – in 1981 – and they were really too good. The experience left me incredibly ecstatic – a total feeling of happiness. When I read reports of others who afterwards experienced problems – equilibrium disturbances, headaches and so forth… I can sympathize, but for me it was totally different. I was pregnant with Cosma (Nina's daughter), and I was completely beneath the rays, with an open mouth and no thoughts. It was great!
That was in Malibu, California?
NH: Yes. Wonderfully strong colors, very much like bubblegum. Do you know that advertisement for bubblegum? Such colors!
Then is Cosma a star child?
NH: Yes, I was in my fourth month, and that is the time when the embryo starts moving around. I don't know if that's where Cosma comes from – if it's some other place. The important thing is that God knows, and nothing else matters. Therefore it's not so bad that I don't remember exactly who I was, when and in what epochs.
To spread your message you've started a new party – the Harmonic Radical Party.
NH: Yes, the name that's in my book, HRP. It's changed a little. It exists also in English, because it's a world party. It's now called RHF – Radical Harmonic Feminists. Shit, in English it should really be called RFH – Radical Female Harmonists. That's my party. Put me on the list. If you want a new guy on the top vote me, East German mother of punk, funk, hipp-hopp
no more mistakes , no more fakes.
My politics are sweeter than a million cakes
countdown, ten to zero
Nina for President, vote your hero
What I think you should now register
Miss Chris Griscom is the love minister
I feel tough, now you know enough
enough to vote the chinese goat
the american puma
I am a Pisces, it's no rumour
Rhea Powers and Sun Bear
will be the ambassadors the universal love affair
yes and yap yap yap
Countdown, ten to zero
Nina for President, vote your hero!
That's my new party. Now the female element returns. There is again a balance in the feminine-masculine chaos.